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I think it was "The Clock of the Long Now" that made the point that we have layers of society that change fast (fashion), slower (markets), slow (law) and very slowly (culture). It is a kind of onion with a fluid surface and more and more fixed interior layers. The upper layers adapt quickly to a change, the lower act as dampers. If changes go in the same direction long enough the lower layers move there too. This is far better than a society where all layers are similarly plastic since it will retain long-term information while adapting partially to short-term information. The timescales of change and how different they should be between different levels remains free parameters (that are non-obvious: their "optimal" values are highly dependent on the distribution of event timescales and what metric of success one uses).

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Had the EU just been seen as a free trade zone, this would not have been a problem. I can trade with people I disagree with. The number of issues where we would have had to reach a compromise would also have been relatively small. But given that the EU tries to be so much more, it needs a lot more consensus and compromise building. And that in turn leads to ignoring dissent.

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discussion topRequesting review of overuse and replaceability of nonfree files in the punk rock article. In general, punk rock is a very broad category that should require very few if any nonfree media files for illustration. In broad categories like these, tons of free media is almost always available, rendering nonfree media failing #1 very nearly without exception. Several editors on several occasions have noted the problems with these files, but one editor has repeatedly engaged in an edit war over cleanup. Additional opinions would therefore be most welcome on the following:

discussion topThis non-free image is used in Metroid#History, where it appears as a thumbnail with the caption: "Metroid provides a thoroughly nonlinear gaming experience." The image doesn't add to this statement in any way, because it represents a relatively linear area (unlike the second screen of Brinstar, which not only has paths left and right but also down once bombs are obtained). Thus, it fails WP:NFCC criterion 8 for the above reasons. RJaguar3 u t 17:03, 24 November 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This discussion should be closed or else all of the comments at the well-attended image deletion discussion should be included here as well.Crystal Balling that a free image will appear is in conflict with reality. After 30 years John Hinckley, Jr. has no free image. Mr.Grantevans2 (talk) 00:14, 26 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Either this is an attempt to discuss something out of the scope of WP:NFCR (which I believe is the case) or it is an attempt to open a new non-free content review on the same image inappropriately quickly. In either case, this discussion should not be happening here. Take it to the image talk page. Whether or not the image description should contain the word "illegal" is a minor concern with no direct bearing on its fair use status, which has already been determined. I am calling for an uninvolved editor to review whether this entire section should be procedurally closed before we start going around in the same unproductive circles again. Thparkth (talk) 11:52, 22 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Most of this revolves around the appropriateness of the previously closed conversation which can now be found at Wikipedia:Non-free content review/Archive 9#File:Khalid-Saeed.jpg. The primary new issue regarding possible illegality of the original taking of the image remains an open question, but in the absence of any further evidence this ambiguity does not appear to affect the prior consensus regarding this image. VernoWhitney (talk) 19:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

discussion topOne of 2 non-free images used in the relatively small aticle King & King. Having 2 non-free images is excessive. The other is the book cover, which is fine. This image is used to illustrate 2 men kissing. The image fails WP:NFCC #8. Lionel (talk) 00:46, 25 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image deleted. Burden of proof as required by WP:NFCC not met as there was not even an attempt to explain why the image was a valid use of non-free content. VernoWhitney (talk) 13:36, 3 May 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image deleted, no further action required. For future reference, this is not a non-free content issue, but rather a copyvio issue and should either be tagged for speedy deletion or listed at WP:PUF as indicated by RJaguar3. VernoWhitney (talk) 13:33, 3 May 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply] 041b061a72


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